Comments on: Pluto : My part in its downfall

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By: Pluto : the IAU should be very afraid… apparently « The e-Astronomer

Pluto : the IAU should be very afraid… apparently « The e-Astronomer — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:06:58 +0000

[...] about every day somebody finds my old blog posts on Pluto through a Google search. One describes being at the IAU vote; one was about the bizarre attempts at legislation in New Mexico and California; and another, a [...]

By: Screw Pluto Lets Bring Back Ceres « The e-Astronomer

Screw Pluto Lets Bring Back Ceres « The e-Astronomer — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:04:45 +0000

[...] expert I is not, but I was at the infamous IAU vote in Prague, and wrote a post about it. This got discovered by Laurel Kornfeld, who spearheads the “Please Save [...]

By: Laurel Kornfeld

Laurel Kornfeld — Sun, 11 Feb 2007 05:49:51 +0000

I believe you and the IAU made a huge mistake in holding this vote via a flawed process that allowed input from only a small minority of IAU members. People had laptops present, yet email voting was not allowed. The planet definition adopted was sloppy and makes no linguistic sense by stating that a “dwarf planet” is not a planet at all. Holding the vote under these conditions was not a “wise action” and made the IAU look far more foolish than the alternative of postponing any action would be. And what is wrong with “opening the floodgates to thousands of planets? Saying there cannot be thousands of planets because that is too much information for humans to handle is hardly a scientific argument. The fateful vote on August 24 may not have been the first vote on Pluto, but it very likely will not be the last either. Almost immediately following it, Dr. Alan Stern, Principal Investigator of New Horizons, circulated a petition among planetary scientists saying they refuse to use the new definition, describing it as “sloppy science that would never pass peer review.” Stern plans to hold a conference of over 1,000 astronomers this summer to address the issue because he feels it cannot wait until 2009. He does not believe Pluto “stopped being a planet” and neither do many other astronomers as well as lay people. This debate is not over.

By: andyxl

andyxl — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:28:00 +0000

“Pluto Kuiper Express was canceled. New Horizons is similar and replaced it.”

oops, yes of course. Just proving I am an extragalactic astronomer and see planets as geoscience really …

By: Darmok

Darmok — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 03:10:20 +0000

Even before Eris was discovered, Pluto hasn’t really fit with the major planets. I think you did the right thing.

Also, if I may, technically, Pluto Kuiper Express was canceled. New Horizons is similar and replaced it.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:32:57 +0000

Let’s say you have a couple hundred very smart people in a room. For the sake of argument, we’ll call it Congress. There is a decision that needs to be made. Now, only maybe five people in the group have really studied the subject properly. What happens? Does the vast majority of the group say, “well, i’m not one of those who really knows the subject – my vote would be counter productive.”, or do they all vote, and you get an answer that makes absolutely no bloody sense at all?

It’s been said that the intelligence of a group goes down as the size goes up. Taken together, we’re one really stupid planet. No intelligent life here. We’re not even self-aware.

According to the definition of ‘planet’, we only have one. Jupiter. And if it were out where Sedna is, we wouldn’t even have one.

The committee spent something like a year and came up with a half way workable solution. Then, at the last minute, a really half baked idea was presented. No one had really thought about it. It wasn’t going to work.

So, i’m going back to the last workable definition. These are the planets: The Sun, the Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus and Saturn. And, the days of the week form a handy way to remember them. Sunday, Moonday, Marsday, Mercuryday, Jupiterday, Venusday, Saturnday.

The Earth is really just dirt.